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Post by villabromsgrove Mon Mar 21, 2016 4:48 pm

http://www.avfc.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10265~5436724,00.html?

Part two of the Bernstein interview, and it is every bit as inspiring as the first part. Randy is onboard, but strapped firmly in a distant back seat.

This is going to work! cheers
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Post by villabromsgrove Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:32 pm

I noticed Bernstein's reference to a meeting at his own home with Remi Garde. He mentions some sterling personal characteristics of Garde, but that still tells me that Garde is history. It doesn't look like it's happening today, I guess they are stage managing a dignified end to the short Garde era.
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Post by villabromsgrove Mon Mar 21, 2016 6:43 pm

Bernstein is talking about a clean slate, a new era. In my opinion that means that the whole of the management and coaching staff will go, and a lot of the players will be shown the door.

Nothing else will get the job done.
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Post by Sandie Mon Mar 21, 2016 7:25 pm

villabromsgrove wrote:Bernstein is talking about a clean slate, a new era. In my opinion that means that the whole of the management and coaching staff will go, and a lot of the players will be shown the door.

Nothing else will get the job done.

Yes. That is what we need. Part of the problem with Garde is that he's at the point that he's started to lose the support of the fans and over seven more games would only make that worse. He'd be trying to rebuild next season already on the back foot and with so much work needing to be done that an immediate return might not be possible. If Garde stayed on, there were seven more games of this and we had a slow start in the Championship his position would be beyond untenable. Some would argue that his position is untenable already. Simultaneous to this loss of support is the way his relationship with the first team squad has developed. He has became jaded after having to deal with our players' lack of professionalism and has, as Ginola has said, given up. How can he come back as manager from that? He will still have to work with at least some of these players and he has failed to lay down the law with them. He's just crept back into his shell and has ceded power to them. He's made compromises. He's picked some of the poorest professionals. Both of these things means he now has to be part of a clear out. We've cleared out some of the management, it looks like we will clear out the coaching staff and after that we HAVE to clear out most of the first team squad.
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Post by Sandie Mon Mar 21, 2016 10:52 pm

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Post by Sandie Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:56 pm

This is perhaps the best summary I've seen of Garde's four month's in charge:

Time to go but Aston Villa have let Remi Garde down

While most Aston Villa fans seem to have come to the consensus that it may well be best for all parties involved if Remi Garde leaves the club, they are divided on whether the Frenchman could really have done much more.

A meagre two league wins since his arrival have failed to lift the club off of bottom spot at any point since the former Lyon boss’ arrival, though the fact that Villa had won just once beforehand speaks of the dearth of quality within the squad. That Garde has been unable to steer the Midlands outfit clear of the drop has been no shock whatsoever, but the manner in which the team has put up so little fight has been alarming recently.

A complete departure from predecessor Tim Sherwood, the board hoped that Garde’s sense of calm would help the players to remain level headed themselves, but it hasn’t worked. It’s further proof that while there are clearly huge issues at board level, that much has filtered through to the playing staff for years. Countless times reports have arisen that the senior players at the club have disapproved of training regimes under multiple managers and coaches, so much so that it appears that they just don’t like to train at all.

It’s come across that way on the pitch this season, with a lack of organisation, concentration and pertinently commitment at the back proving to be most galling for the fans. It is of course the manager’s job to motivate his players but with every candidate over the last 6 years at the club failing to do so it’s hard not to feel sympathy for Garde.

Arriving from a sabbatical following three successful years at Lyon, the young manager came to England with great ambition and desire to prove his ability in the Premier League. Both have been drained from the 49-year old by decision making by is players on the pitch and the powers that be at the club off it.

While his measured demeanour in press conferences and on the sidelines meant many were impressed with Garde’s professionalism initially, a large section have since come to the conclusion that he has failed to connect with the supporters. To keep Villa up and portray a more sunny disposition, however, the Frenchman needed luck and help along the way and in truth he has had neither.

Following an excellent result in his first game in charge, with his appointment inspiring an admittedly fortunate point against Manchester City, the timing of his arrival proved problematic. An international break immediately after saw a handful of first team players go off on duty leaving the manager with a mismatch of players to deal with in his first full weeks at the training ground.

The news that summer signing Jordan Amavi had suffered a season ending injury with France’s under-21s then served as a massive blow. The 22-year old had shown his naivety at times defensively but also the promise that he could offer the club quality from deep that they have lacked for years. He remains Villa’s highest rated player (7.48), having picked up three WhoScored.com man of the match awards in 10 appearances, registered 2 assists and averaged 3.6 tackles and 3.7 interceptions per game.

Villa returned from the break unprepared and were slaughtered by Everton, with Jack Grealish then showing his understandable yet disappointing immaturity to make an inebriated appearance on Snapchat the night of the game. Garde disciplined the youngster and has failed to build a rapport since with a player who promised so much at the tail end of last season but has been hampered by injuries for months.

The theory, though, that Villa have been whipping boys all season is actually off the mark, particularly following Garde’s arrival. The team lost just five of their first fourteen matches under his guidance but it was a failure to turn draws into wins that proved their downfall.

Back-to-back defeats to Norwich and Sunderland over the New Year were ultimately decisive. The results saw the board effectively raise the white flag and have shaped Villa’s season since. Despite only missing out on the signing of keeper Lovre Kalinic due to issues with attaining a work permit, the club only made half-hearted attempts to pursue the players that Garde had identified as targets. Having made assurances that they would back the manager in the window, the club’s failure to sign a single player - of course hindered by their league standing - left the fans and the manager all but accepting defeat.

It begs the question had they been active in January, could they have stayed afloat? Given Garde’s first league victory came in Villa’s second match of the month, results of those around them since show that a survival bid was far from impossible.

Victory over Palace saw the club move within 8 points of safety with 17 games still to play, failing to lose more than twice in a row under Garde until the current run of 6 consecutive defeats that began with their humiliation by Liverpool a little over a month ago. The fact that the players have all but thrown in the towel yet fallen just one point back up until the weekend suggests that a few reinforcements could have made things far tighter at the bottom.

It’s come to pass, however, that there is a disconnect between Garde and a number of his players, though the fact remains that they aren’t his players at all. It’s little coincidence that the English - or at least English speaking among them - that ultimately hold the power in a fractured dressing room have failed to get on board with yet another manager’s ideas.

The summer signings - perhaps Idrissa Gana aside, having made more tackles and interceptions per game combined (9) than any other Premier League player - look completely lost and have failed to adapt to what is an increasingly toxic environment. The feeling is that this is not a team in the truest sense of the word, and therefore it’s proving impossible to manage.

The board are making strides in an attempt to put that right, with Garde’s imminent departure the latest as necessary wholesale changes are enforced. The manager is perhaps unfortunate to face the axe under the circumstances but at the same time there seems little option but to make yet another managerial switch and doing so ahead of what will be a busy summer may be wise.

One thing’s for certain; returning the club to its former glory and securing promotion at the first time of asking will be a mountainous task for whoever takes over the reins.
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Post by villabromsgrove Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:44 pm

This player power has to stop. It's existed for far too long even though the major culprits have changed as senior players have moved on. When Dunne and Collins et al moved on we sighed with relief, only to find that Players like Gabby and N'Zogbia and friends also thought that training was too hard, so they decided to ignore the manager and take it easy.

The last service Garde can perform for Villa is to give Bernstein a full dossier on individual players and their attitudes. No punches pulled, and absolutely honest.
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Post by Sandie Tue Mar 22, 2016 4:49 pm

Precisely. One hears all sorts of rumours about certain first teamers and whilst these must be taken with the proverbial pinch of sodium chloride one has to wonder if they are true just what it needs to take for a premiership player to be sacked.
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Post by villabromsgrove Tue Mar 22, 2016 5:16 pm

Players values are amortised on a yearly basis, therefore at any time the club knows exactly how much equity they have in a player. If a player deliberately breaks his contract by refusing to carry out reasonable instructions, then it should be legally possible for a club to sack the player and sue him for his current amortised value. That would give players pause for thought before they even thought of rocking the boat. They've been over protected and mollycoddled for far too long!
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Post by villabromsgrove Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:13 am

http://talksport.com/football/it-has-got-start-now-andy-gray-urges-aston-villa-replace-remi-garde-and-start-planning?

I don't often agree with stuff on Talksport but I think Andy Gray is on the money with this one. Garde has had time to document his thoughts on the players to Bernstein, now it's time to get a new manager in place so that he can make his own judgements on individuals in a match situation. There will not be a better opportunity than right now .... if we select and appoint the right candidate.
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Post by Sandie Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:34 pm

I agree to the point but there's also a factor that more managers will be available at the end of the season. A dismissal or resignation elsewhere might see the stars align and an outstanding candidate might come our way.

That said, right now you have the likes of David Moyes, Brendan Rodgers and Nigel Pearson all available so there's not really a lack of options (though I don't like Pearson and the first two will possibly be wanting a premiership club).

Regardless (pun not intended) of when Garde goes, we have to hope he is prepared to dish the dirt on the difficulties he had with some players to his successor. Some people don't deserve a clean slate.
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Post by villabromsgrove Wed Mar 23, 2016 4:58 pm

If the right candidate isn't available now, then we have to wait. As you rightly say, other managers will be approachable at the end of the season. There is however a brilliant opportunity for the new man to look at players first hand, and make much more informed decisions if he is able to work with the players over the next two months. Let's see what happens.
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Post by Sandie Wed Mar 23, 2016 6:44 pm

That is a good point, if we delay making a change until the end of the season we then will have a few weeks to wait whilst the club undertake a selection process and the new manager won't get to make his evaluation until the players come in for pre-season training. This will eat into valuable time needed to recruit replacements. That said, I'd like to think performances this season would tell the new man a lot of what he would need to know.
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Post by villabromsgrove Wed Mar 23, 2016 7:41 pm

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if our managerial choice is currently out of work, then it's a no brainer, but if it's someone currently employed then we have to bite the bullet and wait. Oh to be a fly on the wall in Bernstein's office.
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